After having the old-time shepherd/collie type dogs for several years, & losing the last that I had, I went on a search to try to find another one...which eventually led me to several on-line lists, & discovering Sheryl Chesney's wonderful Lily. I was lucky enough to get a male out of her first litter, Duncan. My parents own his full brother, King McAlpin. I am so grateful to the folks that are working to keep these wonderful dogs around for us all.